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Unfair ban and misunderstanding for Chad_Norfork
Started by chad_norfork

Hey so I was just banned for x-raying, I seriously was not. You say you have screen shots, there is no way you do because I was not x raying. I have been grinding the last few days after watching a youtube video on how to get Ingots super fast. You mod out a pickaxe and go to town at level 10. You said something about me getting it at level 46 or something but at the time I probably didnt realise I was that high and just had happened to run into ores then. Once I saw my level I dug down asap to find it. If i was xraying I wouldnt have died to lava yesterday and lost all my gear and debris. I would certainly have over a stack. As well as be more efficient at getting the stuff. The previous time I was ban was for xraying and stealing. Now yes I did steal but also the x-raying was a big mistake, my brother had sent me something via discord and it like auto mined for you to every ore. you didnt even need to touch the key board. When I was shut out of the server I immediately was upset and mad at my brother for sending that to me and asking me to try it out. I had uninstalled it and asked to let back on. They said yes and I started over. I did not X ray, I would not do that. The proof lies in every recording of me mining. I found ever bit fair, that is a promise I can keep. Again I would be WAY more rich if I was xraying. I also made a Mud farm to get rich as well. I made it yesterday and have used it both days. Also I tried to buy a store and sell stuff like lava backuets and coal to make money. Why waste my time doing that when I could jsut xray my life away and get rich. I ask that you please let me back on and return my items to me. This is unfair, If you still ask that I do not play on the server, I would really like to see the screen shots of why I was ban and the stuff I was doing that lead me to get banned.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

 

"Hey so I was just banned for x-raying, I seriously was not." Oh, well in that case- Wait a minute, haven't we had this exact conversation before?

That's right, we did! You were unbanned 3 days ago after you made an appeal for the previous rule breaking - one of those reasons being x-raying. You said you wouldn't do it again and we left it at that, letting you play again on the server so long as you didn't break any more rules. And yet, here we are again.

 

1. Mining for quartz (40-something-y level) pretty normal, other than mining straight into a wall for it. But whatever, it's just quartz. But since you just did your RTP into the borderworlds, there'd be no reason to mine up, right? Just go straight down to your spot.

2. Same location, but for some reason you decided to turn around and mine behind you, but also straight up to more quartz and get the debris? Okay, sure, maybe that's just lucky though! After all, you only found one of the two debris there and the other one wasn't at all visible.

3. You stood still for a good minute and a half, presumably messing with x-ray resource packs, staring at a wall. Had enough time to toggle the one I was using to watch you mine with. Clearly no reason to turn around and mine that wall right beside you, right? After all, if you thought it might be another stray debris you'd mine it instantly, or walk away if you didn't think of that.

4. Oh. I see. So you just... wanted to mine specifically right there and walk away after? Right...

5. Now we're at your spot all the way at the lower depths. But what's this? Ancient debris ahead of you that's too high up? Yeah right when you got close you started mining upwards towards it. Your large tunnels aren't fooling me just because you broke more blocks than you had to.

6. Let's go to the last one. There's clearly a batch of debris that I just summoned in that wasn't there before. Somehow, you magically started to gravitate towards it and turned the complete opposite direction just to head that way. I removed it before you got there, and you turned right back around to go to the next closest debris instead. Honestly I'm not sure how you didn't realize at that point that I was watching.

 

So I'd like to go through each thing in your appeal. "I seriously was not" proven false. "There is no way you have screenshots because I was not" proven false. "I have been grinding for the past couple days-" pro- Oh, wait, you actually were. Nice, took you 20 minutes to find all 62 netherite ingots worth of debris! That might be a new record, maybe you'll get the next netherite beacon!

And FYI, dying due to lava that you couldn't see is not evidence that you weren't x-raying. That just means you weren't paying attention.

Now, last couple things: I don't care what your brother was doing. I ain't reading allat nor does it matter. If something happened on your account, that is your responsibility alone. But you say you have recordings! I'd really like to see how any one of those can prove you didn't x-ray at all on the server.

 

You can return to the server in one month. No sooner. Your netherite has been confiscated. If you choose to return in a month, there will  be no additional consequences - players are treated the same despite past bans, the only difference is harsher punishments for repeated offenders.  

Hope to see you in time for Christmas! Do us all a favor and give us the gift of uninstalling that x-ray pack before you come back.

 

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No man, you still got it all wrong

"1. Mining for quartz (40-something-y level) pretty normal, other than mining straight into a wall for it. But whatever, it's just quartz. But since you just did your RTP into the borderworlds, there'd be no reason to mine up, right? Just go straight down to your spot."

I had just logged on right after school because I knew I had lacrosse practice not long after I got home, as soon as I RTP'd I wanted to get into the wall asap and just try to get at least another 10 debris before I needed to leave. I got into the wall and started spam mining, not thinking about how I wasn't already at Y10. Once I had seen I was not I went and dug down asap.

"2. Same location, but for some reason you decided to turn around and mine behind you, but also straight up to more quartz and get the debris? Okay, sure, maybe that's just lucky though! After all, you only found one of the two debris there and the other one wasn't at all visible."

No it was not luck, I had watched a video on how to get the most debris about 2 days before i was let back on. The strat is to get a high modded pic and mine in every direction, where as about every debis is about 25 to 30 blocks away from each other. if a mine within 30 from the last one isnt foudn that resort to mining up in a diagonal fashion or down in a scattered fashion the reason I turned around is each hall way I make there is a center point that I make equal each direction. I had prob high my mark and knew it was time to pic a different direction. Like you said, I hadn't found the other debris. I would have seen it If i was xraying and would have just mined a little more to get that last piece. 

"3. You stood still for a good minute and a half, presumably messing with x-ray resource packs, staring at a wall. Had enough time to toggle the one I was using to watch you mine with. Clearly no reason to turn around and mine that wall right beside you, right? After all, if you thought it might be another stray debris you'd mine it instantly, or walk away if you didn't think of that."

I had probably gone to the bathroom, also its no lie that when ou sit down at your desk and grab your mouse you shake to a postion around to where you were originally looking, hence why i might have looked in a different direction as soon as i un paused. but im not sure what you mean by the last sentance, if you could get back to me about this i could clear it up for you

"4. Oh. I see. So you just... wanted to mine specifically right there and walk away after? Right..."

Yes, again in the video I watched, Once you find debris it is very likely there is none else near it for a good 25 to 30 blocks, once I find debris I will usually run to a part I stopped mining or just continue straight for about 30 blocks then start going up and down if no debris is found.

"5. Now we're at your spot all the way at the lower depths. But what's this? Ancient debris ahead of you that's too high up? Yeah right when you got close you started mining upwards towards it. Your large tunnels aren't fooling me just because you broke more blocks than you had to."

That makes sense and fits the idea of the video strat, not finding any debris within the 25 to 30 block range? Start mining up if already at 10, down if you are higher than that. Also I most likely had ran into a vein of black stone or gavel and mine up and around it. 

"6. Let's go to the last one. There's clearly a batch of debris that I just summoned in that wasn't there before. Somehow, you magically started to gravitate towards it and turned the complete opposite direction just to head that way. I removed it before you got there, and you turned right back around to go to the next closest debris instead. Honestly I'm not sure how you didn't realize at that point that I was watching"

If we are speaking about that Insane pillar of debris in your screenshot, like bro come on no one is falling for that. If I was xraying and saw that I would have 100% logged off asap. Once again when ever I "magically" turn to a new location its because of my center point. Listen man if you go back into my tunnels, you will see they are always just about even, unless i had found a ancient debris right there and moved on to the next 30 blocks. I do not Believe you that I was flippign around chasing this "Ghost" debris even after you kept spawning and despawning them. No one would do that, even an animal has better instincts than that.

Now you say it took me 20 mins to find all my debris, no it took 3 days. Leave the exaggerating out of this please.

"And FYI, dying due to lava that you couldn't see is not evidence that you weren't x-raying. That just means you weren't paying attention"

On you x ray you can clearly make out every bit of lava on the screen, I ran into lava many many times and didnt regenerate all the way and died on my 3rd or 4th lava patch I ran into. So for the not paying attention, like clearly Im paying attention if I am looking at the screen searching for debris. I lost a lot of stuff when I died, not cheap either.

Also about the recordings. I was mistaken that you guys kept recordings of the server at all times so you could go back and find a player and see what they were doing, hoping that you could look back and that and see my struggles as well as maybe find my innocence. 

So in the end, I'm not mining some debris for some reason, and also dying in lava for some reason. Struggles that a normal player would run into. I am that normal player and I want to please be let back on, with my items returned. Thank you for reading to the end and taking into consideration my appeal. 

 

EDIT: Putting quote marks around what you said

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Clearly this isn't going anywhere. Each of these are solid proof of x-raying and these are sorry excuses. Would've been better off saying "trust me bro" instead of making up stuff about YouTube videos.

 

Yes, you can mine in random directions and eventually hit debris. Unlike everyone else though, you hit every single debris. That is not lucky, that's x-raying. Making larger tunnels to say you were a normal player does not actually make you a normal player or get you out of a ban; nor does dying in lava.

 

The "I'm a normal player I swear I didn't do it" card only works the first time. This is very obvious x-ray.

Appeal is denied. Thread will be locked. If you make a new thread or continue on an old one asking to be unbanned your forums account will just be removed. Hope to see you by Christmas!

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